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Navigation unit for MOST based COMAND is located in left side of trunk. It reads DVD map disks and sends map information over the MOST to COMAND headunit.  The same navigation unit is used also in W211 (E-Class) vehicles. There are several part numbers which all should be compatible. We have seen navigation units being manufactured from 2003 till 2007. Theoretically the navigation units are shipped with different firmware versions, however, they all seem to have the same features.
 
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Navigation unit for MOST based COMAND is located in left side of trunk. It reads DVD map disks and sends map information over the MOST to COMAND headunit.  The same navigation unit is also used in the W211 (E-Class) vehicles. There are several part numbers which all should be compatible. The navigation units have been manufactured from 2003 up to 2007. Theoretically the navigation units are shipped with different firmware versions, however, they all seem to have the same features.


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== Navigation in COMAND ==
=== Starting navigation ===
After unlocking the car the MOST network wakes up starting all MOST connected devices including the navigation processor.
However, it takes some time for navigation processor to start up. If the "NAVI" button on the COMAND is pressed before
navigation processor has fully started up, the "Navigation being activated. Please wait." message will appear on COMAND screen.
After navigation processor has started up the COMAND Navigation menu is shown.
 
[[File:W220_navigation_being_activated_please_wait.jpg|thumb|none|"Navigation being activated. Please wait."]]
[[File:W220_comand_navigation_menu.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND Navigation menu. Appears when clicking on COMAND button "NAVI".]]
 
=== Using map disk for the first time ===
 
When the map DVD is inserted for the first time the navigation processor loads software from that disk.
The process usually takes less than a minute. This process happens whenever different version
of map DVD is inserted for the first time.
 
[[File:W220_navigation_loading_language.jpg|thumb|none|"Loading language English"]]
[[File:W220_navigation_loading_software.jpg|thumb|none|"Loading software"]]


=== COMAND hidden menus related to navigation ===
=== COMAND hidden menus related to navigation ===
COMAND hidden menu has several menus which show information about navigation processor.
[[File:W220_comand_hidden_menu_hardware_navigation.jpg|thumb|none|Hardware navigation menu in COMAND hidden menus.]]
[[File:W220_comand_hidden_menu_hardware_navigation.jpg|thumb|none|Hardware navigation menu in COMAND hidden menus.]]
[[File:W220_comand_hidden_menu_software_navigation.jpg|thumb|none|Software navigation menu in COMAND hidden menus.]]
[[File:W220_comand_hidden_menu_software_navigation.jpg|thumb|none|Software navigation menu in COMAND hidden menus.]]
[[File:W220_comand_hidden_menu_disk_informations.jpg|thumb|none|Disk informations menu in COMAND hidden menus.]]
[[File:W220_comand_hidden_menu_disk_informations.jpg|thumb|none|Disk informations menu in COMAND hidden menus.]]


=== Starting Navigation ===
=== Time synchronization from sattelites ===
[[File:W220_navigation_being_activated_please_wait.jpg|thumb|none|"Navigation being activated. Please wait."]]
COMAND will not allow to configure time manually if it detects navigation processor being connected.
[[File:W220_navigation_loading_language.jpg|thumb|none|"Loading language English"]]
 
[[File:W220_navigation_loading_software.jpg|thumb|none|"Loading software"]]
[[File:W220_comand_navigation_menu.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND Navigation menu. Appears when clicking on COMAND button "NAVI".]]
[[File:W220_comand_navigation_time.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND time configuration using satellites.]]
[[File:W220_comand_navigation_time.jpg|thumb|none|COMAND time configuration using satellites.]]
=== Installing new navigation processor ===
Navigation processor remembers last GPS position. Therefore, after navigation processor is used in different
location (for example, in a different continent) for the first time, it may take even half an hour of
driving until navigation unit is able to find satellites and establish its current position.
=== Unable to read navigation DVD ===
Common symptom resulting from inability to read map disk is error message "Navigation Wrong version of NAVI DVD in navi unit!"
shown on screen some time after navigation processor tries to start up. Navigation firmware does not have separate message
for bad read and therefore displays this "wrong version" error message instead.
[[File:W220_navigation_wrong_version_of_navi_dvd_in_navi_unit.jpg|thumb|none|"Navigation Wrong version of NAVI DVD in navi unit!"]]
[[File:W220_navigation_wrong_version_of_navi_dvd_in_navi_unit.jpg|thumb|none|"Navigation Wrong version of NAVI DVD in navi unit!"]]


=== Navigation unavailable ===
If the navigation processor is connected to MOST network, but after pressing "NAVI" button on COMAND the
message "Navigation unavailable" is shown, it could indicate that board of navigation unit is faulty.
Common cause for such fault is water damage.
=== COMAND unavailable ===
If COMAND does not work and powers down shortly after starting, it could mean that there is break in MOST ring.
This could be caused by completely dead navigation processor. Common cause for such fault is water damage.
In this case the unit has to be replaced with working one or MOST ring must be closed using MOST loop connector.
=== No satellites are detected ===
If map view (after "MAP" button is pressed) shows that 0 satellites are visible, the GPS receiver of the navigation unit might be faulty.
However, it has been observed that sometimes 0 satellites are shown even if navigation works fine
or when the navigation unit is connected for the first time and it hasn't yet found its position.
=== Excessive current draw ===
Faulty navigation unit with map disk stuck may not power off and could drain significant amounts of current
thus draining battery. This can be checked using standard parasitic drain detection methods.
=== Possible faulty unit symptoms ===
* Does not recognize current navigation DVD
* No disk load and eject function
* Damaging the disk
* Too loud mechanical noise
* System hangs after 1h, after reset.
* Incorrect navigation


== Navigation DVD ==
== Navigation DVD ==

Revision as of 00:57, 18 March 2015

Navigation Unit


Navigation unit for MOST based COMAND is located in left side of trunk. It reads DVD map disks and sends map information over the MOST to COMAND headunit. The same navigation unit is also used in the W211 (E-Class) vehicles. There are several part numbers which all should be compatible. The navigation units have been manufactured from 2003 up to 2007. Theoretically the navigation units are shipped with different firmware versions, however, they all seem to have the same features.

Part no. Replaced by
A2118200685 Replaced by A2208205985
A2208205985 Replaced by A2208206085
A2208206085 Replaced by A2208703589
A2208703589 Replaced by A2118708926
A2118708926
A2118705226 Replaced by A2118701085
A2118701085 Replaced by A2118705785
A2118705785 Replaced by A2118706085
A2118706085

Starting navigation

After unlocking the car the MOST network wakes up starting all MOST connected devices including the navigation processor. However, it takes some time for navigation processor to start up. If the "NAVI" button on the COMAND is pressed before navigation processor has fully started up, the "Navigation being activated. Please wait." message will appear on COMAND screen. After navigation processor has started up the COMAND Navigation menu is shown.

"Navigation being activated. Please wait."
COMAND Navigation menu. Appears when clicking on COMAND button "NAVI".

Using map disk for the first time

When the map DVD is inserted for the first time the navigation processor loads software from that disk. The process usually takes less than a minute. This process happens whenever different version of map DVD is inserted for the first time.

"Loading language English"
"Loading software"

COMAND hidden menus related to navigation

COMAND hidden menu has several menus which show information about navigation processor.

Hardware navigation menu in COMAND hidden menus.
Software navigation menu in COMAND hidden menus.
Disk informations menu in COMAND hidden menus.

Time synchronization from sattelites

COMAND will not allow to configure time manually if it detects navigation processor being connected.

COMAND time configuration using satellites.

Installing new navigation processor

Navigation processor remembers last GPS position. Therefore, after navigation processor is used in different location (for example, in a different continent) for the first time, it may take even half an hour of driving until navigation unit is able to find satellites and establish its current position.

Unable to read navigation DVD

Common symptom resulting from inability to read map disk is error message "Navigation Wrong version of NAVI DVD in navi unit!" shown on screen some time after navigation processor tries to start up. Navigation firmware does not have separate message for bad read and therefore displays this "wrong version" error message instead.

"Navigation Wrong version of NAVI DVD in navi unit!"

Navigation unavailable

If the navigation processor is connected to MOST network, but after pressing "NAVI" button on COMAND the message "Navigation unavailable" is shown, it could indicate that board of navigation unit is faulty. Common cause for such fault is water damage.

COMAND unavailable

If COMAND does not work and powers down shortly after starting, it could mean that there is break in MOST ring. This could be caused by completely dead navigation processor. Common cause for such fault is water damage. In this case the unit has to be replaced with working one or MOST ring must be closed using MOST loop connector.

No satellites are detected

If map view (after "MAP" button is pressed) shows that 0 satellites are visible, the GPS receiver of the navigation unit might be faulty. However, it has been observed that sometimes 0 satellites are shown even if navigation works fine or when the navigation unit is connected for the first time and it hasn't yet found its position.

Excessive current draw

Faulty navigation unit with map disk stuck may not power off and could drain significant amounts of current thus draining battery. This can be checked using standard parasitic drain detection methods.

Possible faulty unit symptoms

  • Does not recognize current navigation DVD
  • No disk load and eject function
  • Damaging the disk
  • Too loud mechanical noise
  • System hangs after 1h, after reset.
  • Incorrect navigation

Navigation DVD

Europe

The latest navigation DVD for Europe is Version 15.0 (2014/2015) - part number A2118274665 released March 2014 (price is around EUR 150).

The following countries are included in the disk: Austria, Andorra, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Finland, Germany, Gibraltar, Great Britain, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Ireland, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Latvia, Monaco, Norway, Netherlands, Portugal, Poland, Republic of San Marino, Romania, Spain, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Sweden, Vatican State City.

A2118274665 Navigation DVD with European map.

Note: Disk cover wrongly states that disk is not compatible with W220.

North America

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/audio-telematics-forum/2046073-factory-nav-working-now-lost-very-2.html#post9169025